everyone has some mistaken ideas. and some good ideas.
they don't know which are which. some ideas they think are good are actually mistaken. some ideas they think are mistaken are actually good.
so then we can look at lots of a person's ideas and evaluations and ask: what if this one is mistaken? how might they find out? how might they fix it? if they're mistaken and they never find out, that means they won't fix it. is that a big deal?
often it is a big deal, and there's no serious, realistic efforts going into finding out what one is mistaken about.
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why do posts like this get little to no attention?
is no one reading? i don't think that's it.
do people have nothing to ask? nothing to add?
i don't know.
one idea is that it's pretty abstract and they don't know what it means. and they could ask for an example, but they are too passive.
but lots of more concrete posts get ignored too.
Do you have an example?
And how do you spot "good" ideas that suck?
an example of what?
> And how do you spot "good" ideas that suck?
criticism.
>> Do you have an example?
>
> an example of what?
An example of this would be useful:
"some ideas they think are good are actually mistaken. some ideas they think are mistaken are actually good."
> An example of this would be useful:
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> "some ideas they think are good are actually mistaken. some ideas they think are mistaken are actually good."
Joe thinks creationism is a good idea, but actually he's mistaken. Joe thinks evolution is mistaken, but actually it's a good idea.
[Waiting for him to post "I was mistaken. That example wasn't useful. My bad." And to learn something from his mistake. And to followup on any of the ideas productively.]
> [Waiting for him to post "I was mistaken. That example wasn't useful. My bad." And to learn something from his mistake. And to followup on any of the ideas productively.]
Why do you think the example is not useful? You didn't explain.
What's useful about it?
So you declared it's not useful BEFORE asking why it's useful.
It's useful in so far that it is an example of what anon asked for.
That doesn't say how it's useful to anon (or generally).
> [Waiting for him to post "I was mistaken. That example wasn't useful. My bad." And to learn something from his mistake. And to followup on any of the ideas productively.]
why were you waiting for this?
if elliot's idea is actually wrong, do you think he's going to automagically know that without a flaw being pointed out in it?
it's not waiting, it's more like making an explicit suggestion.
> if elliot's idea is actually wrong, do you think he's going to automagically know that without a flaw being pointed out in it?
which idea is "elliot's idea"? who is "he"? no idea what you're talking about.
> That doesn't say how it's useful to anon (or generally).
Anon asked for an example of "some ideas they think are good are actually mistaken. some ideas they think are mistaken are actually good."
and elliot gave an example of it, as asked.
do you think it's not an example of that?
or is there some other problem you have with it?
> and elliot gave an example of it, as asked.
no he didn't, an anon did.
you don't seem to have any concept of how that example would be useful to the anon who asked for it.