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the Jack Bauer test for countries

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I think in the end it is better to live in a free country with a legitimate government that isn't coping well with terrorism, rather than an oppressive regime where even the terrorists are too afraid to step out of line.

I agree. Let's consider what Jack Bauer would do in each situation.

1) a free country, with a legitimate government, but poor security forces

Jack would personally take over security and kill the terrorists, thus creating a free country with no downsides.

2) an oppressive regime with terrorists too scared to step out of line

Jack would personally kill the oppressive regime, *then* personally take over security for the country. He'd kill the oppressor and the terrorists. We'd end up with the same final result: a free country with no downsides.

So, what's the difference? In scenario 2, Jack has to kill more people. Thus, scenario 2 is further away from a good, free country.

Elliot Temple on November 14, 2006

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Good old Jack !

"Kill them and let God Decide" Cromwell

Anonymous at 11:38 AM on November 15, 2006 | #1 | reply | quote

The Islamists need FI to get their bad ideas removed.

If all terrorists came to FI the world would have been a better place.

Anonymous at 11:41 AM on May 24, 2016 | #5551 | reply | quote

> If all terrorists came to FI the world would have been a better place.

How can a terrorist find FI? Or if told to come to FI, care to read and care to learn instead of caring about killing you?

Terrorists know nothing of how to learn. Their minds are ruled by terrible memes. And if not by their memes, by the memes of other people in their organization. If anything in themselves is open to FI, it would create an enormous conflict in themselves, like it happened with Andrei in We The Living, who ended killing himself. Or it would get them killed by other terrorists.

You don't seem to understand that people who find FI already support, or at least think they support, learning and western values. They have some respect for concepts like the value of individual lives, freedom, peace, education. Even if they are wrong that they understand those concepts clearly.

People who learn well enough to participate in FI are very advanced in their knowledge.

leonorgomes.com at 12:33 PM on May 24, 2016 | #5554 | reply | quote

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